All right, let's go ahead and get started. Hello, everyone. My name is Joe, and thanks for joining us for this next installment of the T-Mobile for Business Solution series, where we update organizations like yours on the evolving landscape of business connectivity and how you can leverage new development to your advantage. We're going to begin today's discussion with this image. If you're involved with researching, implementing, and managing your organization's laptops, your job feels like an incredibly complex juggling act. Managing operating systems, antivirus programs, device interoperability, firewalls, recording and reporting performance metrics, as well as managing diverse service plans. It's a real headache. You have to deliver the laptop performance employees demand while at the same time manage cost, device usage, and security policies, management demands. What could possibly go wrong, right? Well, that's why we're here today to explore the current challenges IT professionals face when managing their organization's laptops, including remote, in office, and Hotelling situations, and how organizations are using 5G laptops to conquer these challenges and elevate their team's work. To help with this, we invited 2 respected connectivity experts to share their experience and expertise. Our first guest speaker today is Jean Sala, who overseas T-Mobile for Businesses connectivity products portfolio. Jean has worked for leading telecom brands worldwide and is responsible for helping businesses of all shapes and sizes migrate to 5G business Internet as well as all the devices that support them. And while Jean is fluent in English, French and Arabic, he's also fluent in Laptopian. So when it comes to understanding the language of the laptop, Jean is the right person for the job. Our other guest speaker is Sebastian Tolstoy, the general manager of the EVCN, or Enterprise Virtual Cellular Network unit at Ericsson, the company who first offered SAS software as a service to enterprises to manage 5G connected laptops. And when Sebastian isn't creating and commercializing key industry solutions, he is the lead guitarist for the metal band Red Fugu, who has four albums, including their latest, Working the Leather, can be heard on Spotify Now. I don't know about you, but I can't wait to hear Sebastian shred some serious 5G connected laptop riffs. But before we jump in with them, we're going to take care of a little housekeeping here. All right? First, remember right below the video screen, that's where you can ask a question. We encourage that. Feel free to submit questions anytime During the webinar, you will receive a personal response to each of your questions within one or two business days. Also during the webinar, some polling questions will appear on your screen. Just select your choices and together we're going to see the up to the 2nd results. Now remember, your answers will not be seen by any other webinar participants. In fact, let's go ahead and try one out. What is your biggest concern with your employees using Wi-Fi for business purposes? Just select one of these and then send. Is IT security risks and cyber attacks, unreliable connection, slow speeds, unlimited coverage or difficulty managing multiple devices and network access? I know just selecting one of these could be tough, but for our purposes right now, just select the one that is keeping you up at night the most and then sent. All right, well, let's see how you all answered here. Well, security is always a major concern, right? But I'm sure for most of you listening, all of these concerns are keeping you up at night. So, Jean, to kick things off, let's go and take a look at the current challenges businesses face when connecting their employee laptops to the Internet and with each other. Well, thank you Joey for having me here. And you know based on some of the questions that you asked, this is a lot of the trends that we're seeing on the market today. We see two big trend. On one extreme, we're seeing a blurring of the office space and employees needing and demanding seamless connectivity, needing the ability to have access to all that tools wherever they are and at any, any point of time in the day. On the other side, we're seeing the organizations really kind of trying to tighten up their security. So these are two major trend that we see in the market that kind of opposing each other. Sebastian, what's what have you seen? I think that I mean, most enterprises can probably recognize themselves with this and then a total alliances also what what Vince and Ericsson being a global account and of course with with businesses in in many different countries. But in general, we are more people now back in office, but it's so much more flexible than before the pandemic and, and employees are really now expecting and demanding access from anywhere, anytime. And you know, if you ask our executives and I, the manager, what this top of mind, it's security, as you could see in the in the poll that he has had, right? I mean, security is top of mind. How can we reduce attack areas? How can we secure and guarantee like a secure access while also trying to make the service more simple for, for our employees to use, right? I mean, how can we reduce the hassle with security certificates, passwords and anything, right? I mean, it's not to do to make it to make it more simple and, and and reliable for our, our employees. And then again, you know these we're not anymore stuck in office, you know, we're everywhere. So the security is kind of magnified and also with all the different trends that we see in the market, securities being on top of mind of everybody, even even the the the simple consumer. So let's kind of dive into this, Sebastian. So if we look at the kind of rise of everywhere anytime working, you know, what we've seen is the kind of the need to have a reliable connection, the ability to people to be able to have a good network connection wherever they are, being able to access their work to be efficient. They don't want to waste time logging in and changing things and trying to find the Wi-Fi password. And also the the last thing which is something very interesting is the battery life, you know, making sure that the laptop have the right battery life, the people can work everywhere. Yeah, I definitely agree on that. I mean, I like this list of issues and what really resonates with me is also this, this 4th bullet here. I mean around inconsistent device and after performance. I mean, today our employees, they expect that they can use any type of laptop, any type of tablet or smartphone, smartphone and connect to the any application anywhere, right? But, but, but if you are sort of you having your own servers, you have your own firewalls around the specific office location, you have your own application, It's a constant struggle to ensure sort of compatibility between applications and devices. Right. And, and I remember myself a few years ago, we hadn't really advanced so much as we are today, But I, I got a new laptop and it turned out to be sort of a non standard laptop. And suddenly there was a lot of applications I couldn't access and use any longer. I remember 1 deadline, I had to submit the, you know, approved time reports and I just couldn't do it. I asked couldn't access that application because it was one of those applications we had developed ourselves and it's it was a very stressful experience. Now of course a lot of that we have sold, but it it combines sort of compatibility with with freedom of of device and location is a big topic that that we as an industry and enterprises like the department has had to address. Tiras, I think you're bringing back horror stories from the past. I do remember the time when I was like, why is this not submitting? Why can't I have connection? So yeah, to move on to the next issue that we we kind of we thought. Talking. Security, and I think this is the key element. A lot of companies and individuals are very concerned, and one you have a laptop and you're moving around, the laptop, security becomes even more important. Specifically if you're trying to connect to a public Wi-Fi where it's really unsecure. You know, how do you start securing every single endpoint that you have? And I think this is one of the biggest challenges that industries have. Yeah, no, I agree. And I think, I mean, I think about security and, and it's a lot of sort of cost and, and risks associated with that then. And again, I mean, if you keep equipment there on, on, on site, then you have the sort of site approaching and designing and maintaining your, your network. You have to have those firewalls and VPNs you need to keep updated with latest software and corrections. That drives a lot of complexity and cost right then and exposes us also to unnecessary risks. And and you know, and then when the people are outside of office, it's a non optimal environment. And, and every time when they connect and over an unsecure connection, you open up like an attack surface to your company resources. So security is a big challenge. Absolutely. Well, I got to tell you guys, you laid a really solid groundwork for us. You know the challenges of using Wi-Fi and other insecure networks, They're tougher than even I realize. But before we explore the solutions businesses are actually using, I'm going to ask of another one. Another quick question here. Here it is. How far along are you on your journey to evolving your organization's laptop to 5G connected laptops? Go ahead and select one of these and then send all right now. Remember, no other participants can see your response here. Would you say we placed, replaced many or all of our employee laptops with 5G laptops? We have a 5G laptop replacement plan in place and are about to start. We're still in the talking phase, or honestly, this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Go ahead and select the one that best represents where your organization is and then send. All right, well, let's take a look how you responded. Well, it looks like that. You know, I realized this is tough. Actually, 5G laptops, they're still relatively new, right? And it's interesting how many people still don't know much about them. That's a shame. You know, because of 5G connected laptops, they have several native features that immediately address many of the inherent challenges laptops present. So back to you, Jean. Why are 5G connected laptops such a good idea? And how should a company go about choosing 1? Well, to be able to kind of articulate this, let's start giving you a use case. Let's pick John Smith. And John Smith leaves his home early in the morning and rushes to get his coffee. And he remembers that he forgot to send an e-mail. Well, he has to open his laptop and figure out what the local Wi-Fi password is, drop the e-mail and send it. And he drive to the office and he connects to the office corporate Wi-Fi. But then when he travels or he's visiting a customer or he's sitting enjoying anything, anytime he wants to connect, he has to go and look for the Wi-Fi, look for a, a, a security Wi-Fi and connect. And it creates a lot of inefficiencies and unpredictability in a person's life. And I think if we look at the scenario of having a 5G connected device, you'll, you'll have a very different experience. Sebastian, do you want to? Walk us through I, I guess this is the, the, the complete opposite of what you just described, Sean, right. And, and I have this had this interesting meeting a while back with, with Sven. He works as a railway repair worker. He, you know, he, he goes out in remote locations and the repair rails, you know, welding, grinding and stuff like that big guy, you know, with this high visibility clothing, work pants, you know, dressing in this jacket and floors and collars, you know, helmet with the earmuffs and stuff. And, and he's doing a very important job. And we changed his, his old Wi-Fi only laptop with, with a brand new 5G laptop, you know, with a, with a ragged cover. And then when they had used that for a couple of weeks, we called him up and, and, and said, how's it going? What's, what's, what's the experience? And I mean, the joy you can hear in his, in his life, in his voice. I mean, the experience he had had, it was just great, great to hear right then. And he said that this is how it should function. It's, it's ridiculous now to need to have it like a mobile phone to connect your laptop for, for tethering, right? Or having to go to a coffee place or having to go home to connect to Wi-Fi, right? With this type of 5D laptop, I would have immediately this this card in my other computer. I think he said something like that right then and and he explained to me that now he can actually write the reports directly when he's out on the side, right? He's just doing the work, repairing the rails, he's sitting there, he opens up the laptops, he can write reports immediately. He can have a very fresh experience of what he has been doing, right, instead of having sort of to wait to do the report until he gets to A, to a Wi-Fi point of coming home, right. And he also said that, you know, now when I'm out there working on those railway sites, I always have access to tech support. I mean, I can access our corporate resources, drawings, enterprise, I mean, engineering information and so on. So he was really amazed about the increased level of of productivity. Can I do another example as well from? Yeah, Yeah. Go ahead, go ahead. I was, I was going to just say one thing that you had on is so we, we've given some laptops to 5G laptops to some folks and couple of weeks later we tried to take them back. They wouldn't give them back. But go ahead, go with the. Next I have, I have one of those colleagues myself actually it's, it's, it's his name is Nicholas. He's my friend here is, is a sales executive and he has, he's working on the local market here. So it does a lot of driving, meeting customers every day. And, and I ran into him in the canteen the other day and asked him how, how, how are you doing now with your new 5G laptop? And, and he has said, I mean, a typical day, he starts to work from home, you know, he has his, his laptop, he has opens it up, it, it works. And then it typically goes to one of his bigger customer. They sit in this big modern business complex where they have some nice coffee shops. He likes to go down a little bit early, you know, sit down and work a little bit, drinks and coffee, preparing mentally for, for the customer thing. And then he goes up when the elevator to the customer normally he's, he's showing like a live demo that he runs. It's an application up in the cloud. You know, he has to have to work, ask for the, the the password for any, any Wi-Fi network he has used his 5D connection. He has super active. He can immediately start to to to present right. Then the other day when he was there asked, he sort of was leaving that that presentation. He ran into one of the executives in in the lobby and and he asked, hey, what are you talking about? In in the meeting room. I saw it was a big group of people there. And then he has to open up his laptop. You know, when they showed the live demo for him as well. He has seen the the highlights in a few few minutes. So productive, right? And then he went back to the office. He has continued and what he appreciated the most about that you just have your laptop and regardless of where you are is just so reliable. You have the same sort of constant experience. You can always access the applications. It's just a productivity tool. And I'm sure that he's one of those guys who would never hand hand it back, right. Then why, why? Why shouldn't it? Why? Why should it? Exactly, exactly. So the big question now becomes how, what do you need to have this? I think one of the first most important things is the network. I think having a partner. Who? Can give you a network that is countrywide, high throughput, high availability, a scheme, all these scenarios that you talked about. It's, it's based on the network and you need to really have a strong network. The, the, the, the other real need is security that we talked to, we keep talking about, you know, and it's not just about giving the, the ability for people to come in and update all the software on the phone or the laptop, but also to secure the number. 5G inherently is more secure than Wi-Fi, but on top of 5G you can have different solution like a Sassy solution. Now Sassy is a framework and there's a lot of solution that can come in within that framework. T-Mobile, we offer a number of these solution that really give you a protection. It will authenticate the SIM itself and protect the data from the laptop all the way to the company's network, and it's as if you're in the office itself. Yeah, agreed. The third element here is you need to have a partner that will help you transition. It's not as easy as providing folks with a laptop and saying, hey, there's a 5G laptop. Thank you very much. You know, there's, there's a lot of activities and I think you'll be talking about that a little bit later about moving to the cloud and, and setting up your organization to really benefit from all that. And at T-Mobile, we really help you with the, the kind of the 360 angle of this. We kind of come in, we help understand your need. We could have defined what the solution we designed the right solution for you. We help you with the testing, we build any kind of. Software or kind of interaction that you need and we help you, you know stage and deploy all the different laptop that you need to we offer with Ericsson with a number of other partners in entire end to end solution. Yeah. And I think Sean, that is that is very important, right, Because it's like you say, right, It's not not just about the laptop, right. You need to have the entire solution and I mean finding the right partner. It is always important, right? And especially especially in this type of transformation. And we can save my own experience as well as we roll out sort of 5G branch office by branch office that that each branch has its own requirements, 11 office, for example, a green phase setting up a new office, another one sort of will migrate. Some officers have already done a cloud security shift while others have not, right. So our experience is that sort of the from state is always different, but sort of the the two state is fairly sort of well defined, but it's the journey, right? How do you get there? That is what you. The transformation. The transformation and that's where you need someone to to hold, to hold your hand, right and then take you through those steps right to so you can get to that the end. States, yeah, absolutely. You know, I got to tell you, it sounds to me like 5G connected laptops, They're undeniably the wave of the future. But before we get into specifics here, quick reminder, please keep those questions coming. All right? We're going to get a response back to you within a couple of days. And I'll tell you what, let's have one more quick poll question, which is how confident are you that you have the right expertise and the necessary resources you need to support a migration to 5G enabled laptops? Again, you could be completely honest. No other participant could see your responses here. So would you say you are very confident? Confident, somewhat confident or not confident at all, Go ahead and select your confidence level and then hit that send button. All right, let's see how you responded. Well, just I suspected guys, there's not a whole lot of confidence out there, but that's why you're here. Which brings us to our final and perhaps most important section of this webinar, how Ericsson working with T-Mobile is supporting real world 5G connected laptop programs in businesses across multiple verticals. So, Sebastian, how are you all making it happen out there? Yeah, though thanks. Actually we are on a journey. They have been on that journey for a few years now. And I think looking back, I think we understood sort of that the challenges fairly well. And if we start with them, I mean, there were two significant challenges that we had, right. I mean, we had too many servers and on Prem applications and that generated high cost and and sort of complex life second management. I think we spoke spoke about about that a little bit earlier today in, in this, in this call. And the second thing is that we had a very high, very complex as it costly design and, and maintenance of security solutions that were really tailored for, for, for sites with VPN and firewalls and so on. And then on top of that sort of COVID-19 came and everyone just left office. And, and the office was not only sort of where, where we used to work, but it was also the, the center of attention of our ITI mean, we had that sort of site approach in, in, in designing and, and setting up IT services. And now everything changed. So to address this, we, we started and have now nearly completed a cloud transformation. So we have got rid of those servers and sort of own applications and everything is now running up in the cloud. And we have also changed our sort of security approach going from a site approach, physical approach into sort of an endpoint approach where each device has its own security then and trend up to the applications in in the cloud. And I think those are two very important prerequisites to to succeed with, with with the 5G roll out. So, so while we're done with that part, I mean now we need also tend to get rid of those local fixed networks that we have because they're still around there. They generate a lot of cost. There's lot of complexity in maintaining them. You need to be refreshed and updated and so on. There's also a lot of different vendors that requires relationships, you know, procurements that drives cost in many different functions of our company, right. So and what what is man for us is that the very long lead time for setting up a new office and and it was not really an optimal solution for for our employees. It was still sort of side focus, but but employees are not and longer in office 100% right. They are working from anywhere and and we we need to have that sort of endpoint focus. And here comes then five GS and ubiquitous sort of nationwide coverage, which is something completely different than having a local sort of connectivity solution in your office older, right. You need to think really sort of bigger than than than just that local local site. And and this last leg in our journey has has now sort of started and we are on the way. And the ambition with this transition is that we should be able to reduce costs associated our branch of this IT connectivity with up to 40%. So it's a big sort of financial saving coming on top of this as well. So I think this picture very well sort of summarizes what what I have said in in the previous in the previous slide. And I think I love this slide. But then it clearly shows that the potential how much you can simplify. I mean, to the left here, you see that type of legacy IT architecture where everything is on the side and there's also at the same time no proper solution for employees outside of the office. And on the right, I mean you have done the transmission to the cloud, the security sort of endpoint to cloud oriented and you're utilizing 5 different connectivity. And there's really no difference of the experience and the security and, and the service that the employee has in the office or outside of of the office. It is very much a sort of an employee focused IT service design. What do you take away from from this? What do you see in this? I mean, I, I, I love this. I mean, for me it's simplification, which is great. And it's simplification and not elimination of, of, of opening up the security, the, the, the, the security. It's actually tightening up the security. You know, you're taking something that's very complex, very old, very traditional to something new, simple, flexible and extremely secure. And This is why I think this new way of walking is is is is is the the the way forward. Yeah. And it really sort of the, the security aspect here, I mean in, in the left side, I mean you say that you have designed your security from a sort of an office perspective, right. While the reality is that, that we we want to have a secure connection from anywhere, right. And, and by having that endpoint security and a consistent and reliable connectivity solution as well, of course simplifies that the immensely. OK, so where are we then in, in our sort of roll out of 5G? And I would like to share openly some of the challenges and, and you and I show we have talked about them quite, quite quite a few times, right. I mean, we, we have a very ambitious targets and and we have an ambition to to buy up to 100,005 G laptops. But the immediate experience presented us with with a few sort of quite significant challenges in, in, in deploying 5G. So first of all, we were not really able to remotely provision the 5G service. You know those I is in profiles that you need to have to push out to the laptops. So, so we left it to the to the employee. For the employee it, it was difficult to understand how to parishion and an ECM on on your laptop. And at the same time, our IT department didn't have any visibility of the laptops when, when they were on, on 5G. And we had also no certainty of, of the cost and, and the consumption. And there was no was a real performance guarantees in for example, our office where we wanted to have a, a more sort of guaranteed approach of, of the connectivity. So this resulted in a much slower adoption of five years. Even if people had five G computers, they didn't adopt the 5G service because of of this several reasons, right. So as an engineering and and sort of innovation company, of course, these challenges spurred a lot of creativity and innovation in our company. And, and, and we developed a solution to address this very specific needs, right. And it's called in this end. And so Enterprise Virtual Cellular Network which is a cloud based enterprise connectivity management platform. And, and one thing that I think you hit on Sebastian, which is very important, which is something that we've learned at T-Mobile, is for something to be successful, it has to be easy. And you made it easy not only for the end user, because guess what, all they do is open up the laptop when it works, but also you're making it easy for the administrators to roll out all these easels. So the easier you make things, the the most successful you are at at at getting to the outcome that you want to get to. Exactly. So we did a lot of in depth interviews with both the, the, the user, the employee of why he or she didn't or did use sort of 5G, but also really sitting down with the, with the IT administrators, sort of really trying to understand what, what was the problem with 5D, What were their, their challenges to really understand how we can improve that. So that the solution and that we came up with the CN, it really has sort of four main areas. And the first one here is around sort of connectivity, we call it intelligent connectivity. And it, it is about how you provision the 5G service that is in profile on the on the laptop remotely by the IT department. And also how you can remotely set 5G as the primary access because we don't want and we, we know that the end user doesn't want to have to go into that little icon at the bottom of your computer, right, to select Wi-Fi, you know, select five year. It should be set by policies remotely, but IT department. So I should have sort of like more like a zero touch experience. Just open my computer. It works, right? I don't need to have to think about it and what type of connectivity I have. It should just work. The second area here is, is network Adis. Maybe we should sort of rebound that into sort of differentiated service configuration because that's really what it is. It gives a tool to that IT administrator to really sort of consume the capabilities of the 5G network so that you can configure more advanced services. And some of them could be for example, a location based differentiated performance. You remember I talked about that Sean Wright that in in the office we won't have like a guaranteed service and maybe in the rest of the country we can have the best effort service. So within the CN then you can actually program down the line 55G network to set that type of difference in the performance service. It's really cool. And also you, but you also need to have a network that can provide you that differentiation. And with T-Mobile having the only 5 GSA core in the US, we're the only one who can actually leverage all of these functionalities. That, that's so true, right? I mean this, this requires that you have the latest and greatest of the 5G technology, the assay technology, right? And and because that gives you the chance to expose those 5G capabilities and this you understand the tool for the IT administrator to sort of manage that. Then of course, I mean the, the authority area here is analytics and that is about the sort of the visibility. So we want to give the visibility for I demonstrate their own what is the performance of of a give a laptop or a given sort of location. We want them to give a chance to be able to see what is the cost and and the usage. And then finally also security and this is an optional additional feature that will also enable through EDCN, which comes as a complement to like a SAS service that you talked about today as well. So, so this would give an enhance the security capability on top of the already sort of secure 5G network. Yeah, fantastic there Sebastian. I, you know, I great examples of our organizations, they can take advantage of 5G and strengthen their laptop strategies and keep everyone productive and safe. But I'm sure everyone would like to know what now? I mean, how do I get my company started on its own 5G connected laptop journey? Now I'm going to turn this over to both of you, but to my mind, it seems logical that organizations should just jump in and try it. I mean, you know, every company has a laptop upgrade schedule, equipment needs for new hires, etcetera. So why not try some 5G connected laptops? I mean, does that make sense? That's exactly the point. Yeah, Joey, look, we both are T-Mobile and Ericsson, we went and tried this, you know and and we have experience in trying this and this is some of our findings trying it and it's, it's, it's incredible. The the two trial have been very separate and if you look at the numbers, they're very similar. 82% of the folks that we gave the laptop, there's no way they would return them and the rest of the 818%, they were happy with it. Yeah. And then? From your side, yeah. Now we have a very similar experience and, and then the statistics here comes from our Bellevue office in Seattle served by, by the T-Mobile network. And, and then the numbers as I think speak by themselves, 78% came that very good or excellent service. The, the, the 6% that said that they have a had a somewhat worse experience. When you, when you're going to the survey and you talk to these people, you actually see that, that the most of the problem they have was related actually to the hardware of the PC or some configurations of the PC or some battery issues or some, something else, right? Not really related to the, to the connectivity service. And, and there are some really good statements here as well, right? I mean, witnessing about sort of faster speeds, lower latency working from the Mountain House or, or why waiting for, for the kid attending a class, right then you know what then, Sean? I mean, I'm actually sitting on a 5G computer right now running over 5G and, and I don't think I do have any problems or seeing me or listening to me, right? And, and yesterday had this typical great example of, of using 5G on, on my laptop. I, I have a son, he plays tennis a few times a week and I typically try to take him there and, you know, while I wait for him an hour. Yesterday we had a deadline in Ericsson to do the annual salary review. I was very late and had to do it before I forget to talk in the evening. And I was sitting there next to the tennis courts and then I see my son playing so many times. So, so I mean, you know how it is, right? But then I asked open up a laptop and you know, I can go into this special application. I have access to all the performance reviews are done with my diary reports and I asked complete the my annual salary review of my diary ports and I'm done, right. And it's yes, it's such a great example of how you can use 5G on the go, right with the laptop. It's it's. A game changer. It's a game changer. And and Speaking of just jumping in, John, you want to tell him about this particular option that's out there? Well, I mean, we're, we're ready to do a trial with anybody who wants to come and do it. So talk to your account manager, come to us and we'll help you get some laptops and or some dongles or whatever you need to get going with this. We believe in it, and we'll help you get that. Yeah, this is really, I mean, it's awesome actually, T-Mobile Network 360 Challenge, it's a fully managed network trial designed for enterprises and organizations with more than 100 corporate owned devices. And it allows them to get the T-Mobile 5G network a test drive at no cost to them and then compare it to their current network performance. It's really cool. You can actually scan that QR code and you can learn more about this incredible opportunity. Well, I got to say thank you very much Sean and Sebastian for sharing all this great knowledge and I think everyone feels just a little better about migrating to 5G connected laptops knowing that there is the proven partnership of T-Mobile for Business and Ericsson out there who can help them every step of the way. Now folks, answers. 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